. in the capitol two years ago the first person shot was the armed guard at the door. so they're no defense against semiautomatic weapons and glocks and these magazines. >> reverend, what hope do you see for changing the gun culture in this country if the forecast is you're not going to get any republicans to do anything on assault weapons ban, you're not going to get them to do anything on the number of bullets put in a magazine and the availability of it all in closing the gun show loophole. i mean, these are the main things, main problems. i mean, what hope do you hold out for change in the culture? >> well, these republicans have been much too silent. they will not go on shows this week even to discuss it because they're trying to lead by fear, not lead by courage and not lead by hope. you know, right now we see the massacre at northern illinois university and virginia tech and aurora, and now, of course, in sandy hook. how painful it was to see those babies wiped out in that way. but, you know, the next level, these guns can wipe out airplanes and infrastructure. these are military assault wea